Updated 2018 05 17
This concerns a request for help with excessive child support. We often receive help requests such as that by Lisa and George (not their real names) quoted here.
To Whom it may concern,
My husband and I met 10 years ago. He was briefly married to a women for 1 year and they had a baby boy.
After $30,000 and 3 years later in court fees, my husband finally received joint legal custody.
We have my stepson (now 11) on a one-week-on, one-week-off basis.
The week that we have him we must still pay the ex wife $120.00 and she spends this on herself. (FYI, she has remarried and has 2 more children of her own.)
She wanted my stepson to attend private school and took us to court to pay her more money. Of course she won, and the tuition 5 years ago was $6,500/yr (we pay 60%).
Now that my stepson is going on to highschool (Quebec starts in grade 7) the tuition is $10,500. My husband and I have 2 other boys. This is ridiculous.
Could a judge possible make us pay more? Can my stepson not go to a public school? We have no more money to give and we cannot afford to go back to court unless we are sure we can win this case.
My husband is so distraught.
Is it possible to guide me and my husband to any website, document or even someone we can telephone for more info?
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this.
Generic advice for excessive child support obligations
I offer generic advice in such situations and I did so now.
Unfortunately I cannot hold out much hope for you that you or any lawyer can get the injustices against George, against you and against your common children corrected.
The reason for what you experience is not so much a miscarriage of justice that can be corrected than it is a consequence of the implementation of the international agenda for the planned destruction of the family.
One may argue that if that is so, then such injustices should equally befall men and women. However, the way this starts is that men and fathers are the weakest link in marriages and are therefore the easiest to be removed (and punished for wanting to be fathers in families). The idea is to prevent the formation of marriages by scaring men (and women) away from forming marriages. As that objective was promoted for two-hundred years and more by feminists (male and female – there are more of the former than of the latter), it stands to reason that first wives will not lose as much through the culture of divorce as their husbands do. However, one of the biggest motivators for the creation of the devastation and privation caused by the divorce industry is no longer so much the goal of the complete and total destruction of the institution of the family as it now is – plain and simple – profit. (See Stephen Baskerville’s articles on the nature and consequences of the war against fathers and families.)
The only ones who consistently win through divorce are the lawyers and the adjuncts of the divorce industry. Let there be no mistake, judges are lawyers, too, and they win because the divorce industry has grown into a major sector of the legal industry. Therefore, judges have become and continue to become increasingly more powerful and richer. Be clear on this as well, the financial burdens placed upon you by what you call “court fees” are actually minimal. The majority of your court costs that you had to pay as time went by were in fact fees that had to be paid by you not to the courts but to the lawyers you hired. Furthermore, it happens very often that divorcing or divorced husbands are being ordered by the courts to pay their ex-wives’ court costs and lawyer fees as well.
Yes, women who are being financially rewarded for having become divorced cannot and will not in any way be held accountable for how they spend their alimony payments in the disguise of “child support”.
You explained that you have become financially exhausted and can no longer fight court battles. That is bad news, because it is not very likely that without a lawyer you can manage to get your court-ordered child support obligations disentangled and adjusted so that they become manageable.
References to sources of help with child support cases
I cannot point you to anyone in particular who can help you, but I can direct you to some organizations in Quebec that can help you with advice. Check these links:
- If you live in Canada, check the Canadian Equal-Parenting-Groups directory (Many of the listed organizations have help lines.)
- If you live in the USA, check the home page of the Equal Justice Foundation for a link to a directory called “Men’s And Women’s Resources — By State”. (Note 2018 05 17: this search should take you there directly.)
Pick organizations that have regular meetings of their members. By getting in touch with those members at those meetings you will gain from the experiences of others who are going through troubles like yours or who went through them and got them resolved somehow.
You will not only learn what works and what doesn’t, but you will also be able to determine what your chances are and with which lawyers you can make the best progress.
You will quite likely learn far more from working with such an organization than you can from any lawyer. Be careful with using a lawyer.
Lawyers generally work primarily for themselves, not for you. Never forget the nature of your relationship with a lawyer you hire: you are the boss, and he (or she) is the contractor you hired to solve your problem.
Therefore, you need to know how lawyers work, what standards they use, what you want them to do for you, where, when and how and – most of all – how well it all needs to be done.
How to select a lawyer
Just as with any other contractor (e. g.: a construction company for building a house), you need to be careful about how to select a lawyer:
- Have a “blueprint”;
- Present that to more than one contractor;
- Ask for an estimate of the costs and of the probability of success;
- Ask for references as to similar jobs done;
- Compare the answers you get, and
- Make your selection.
Things don’t end there. You need to monitor:
- Start dates and locations of court actions and be certain that the lawyer is prepared and will be there;
- That your intentions are properly translated into legal actions, and
- You need to have included in a court order for visitation or custody that the police will be required to enforce the provisions of the court order issued if the mother of the child obstructs the court order in any way or manner.
Here is another recommendation that I give to all men who come to me with problems similar to yours. As crazy as that may seem to you, you must have a paternity test done before you do anything else (or as soon as possible and concurrently with anything else that you feel needs to be done right now). The reasons for that are explained in the following:
Hope that helps (but write if you need more pointers).
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I raised my two kids from 1982 to 1986, when a judge said my ex-wife should get a second chance and I should give the kids to her.
In 1987, one year later, my son came back to live with me. My ex-wife would not let my daughter come and live with me and her brother. So my daughter had to live in garages and stay on the run from welfare with her mom.
In 1990, my ex-wife sent my daughter to a foster home. My daughter was not allowed to come and live with her dad and brother.
The state says they always do what’s best for the child. HA HA HA. Up till 1986 I gave my kids a good life then along came a damn judge who thought he knew what was up and took my kids and gave them to my ex-wife.
I called the judge in 1987 and let him know that my boy was back living with me and my daughter was with her, living in a garage. I asked, “How do you like what you did?” He said, “I don’t like the way this turned out. I am going to send you some papers to fill out, so we can get this into court and get you both of your kids back.”
I never got the papers. After two weeks I called the judge back to see what happened and found out the judge had died.
I did get to raise my son his whole life less one year and my daughter up to 1986. In 1988, when my ex-wife put my daughter in a foster home, Welfare would not let me or her brother ever see her again till she turned 18.
NEED HELP BAD !!! Minnesota says I owe 45,000.00 in child support. Get real, Minnesota Welfare Dept., you messed up and want me to pay for your mistake.
If anyone knows how to help me, email me. firstname.lastname@example.org